Episode 17 features Rach chatting to Yvette about being courageous and taking brave steps to create the path your authentic path in life.
Yvette shares how she took steps to follow her heart by giving herself permission to be brave and accepting that perfection was not important.
Yvette's love of mentoring and supporting colleagues in her work as a hospital consultant helped her to identify her love of coaching.
We chat about the importance of feeling messages in your body, becoming more self-aware and showing up as yourself.
It was a wonderful opportunity for us to find out more about where our paths have taken us many years after finishing med school together!
It's a pleasure to share the space today with my next guest, Yvette Yvette is a co-active coach who works with ambitious and high-achieving mid-career professionals to help them achieve their goals. Yvette helps people to be authentic, purposeful leaders within themselves to recognize their choices and to be in control of their own lives. She first started coaching when she was working as a consultant in pain medicine, she remains passionate about working with leaders, living with long term conditions in particular chronic pain, but her interest in self-care and personal development is much more widespread and has led her to create her own coaching business. Yvette Coldicott pitching so welcome. It's wonderful to have you here.
Thank you Rach it's exciting to be here.
You and I met over 20 years ago now at med school and despite our paths taking us off in completely different directions, it's been really, truly wonderful to reconnect with you. Your work now involves supporting people, and I know some of the recent work you've done is about allowing people to reconnect with themselves. Can you share with us your own story of reconnection and how you identified, what matters to you and reconnected to yourself?
Mm goodness. Well, I think it was a very long journey and I was on it probably for a very long time before I realized I was on it and going around in circles, not really understanding what was going on or how it was happening. And I think when I started to recognize that I was on this journey of connection, I'm not even sure it was reconnection. I think it was probably more connection then that allowed me to really be much more purposeful in my thoughts and in my actions to understand, and to identify what mattered and what was important. And that it probably really started, I guess, about five years ago now that I became much more conscious of that. I was very lucky. I met somebody, a friend actually she was a school mum. We just started having some very stimulating thought-provoking conversations. And that started to really get me opening up and aware of where my thoughts were. And that allowed me through that than to start getting some support. I did a lot of reading as well, talking to lots of different people and working with coaches as well to really hone down or start to hone down the essence of me and my life and the meaning of it all. And it's ongoing and it's iterative for sure. But it gets clearer all the time.
It's great to hear, but it was getting clearer for you and you support your clients now to make some of those conscious decisions and to get clarity. And you've shared a bit about how you started to get that clarity in your own life to lead you to work in what you're working with now, was there a moment where you could see the path and the actions you needed to take to get to this point, or as you say, has it just continually evolved and you've given yourself that courage and that trust to follow it?
Yeah, very much the latter. So I think one big conscious decision that I made was that and I even called it project next step, and this was all about the next step. And it was absolutely about following my heart, following the path, not worrying about steps backwards, not worrying if it was left or right. And just feeling, feeling the direction. So yeah, the next step, everything I do is, is very much the next step. And I see it all as such a lesson and the gift of what I learned and what I gain from something. And if it ends up not being the direction that I continue going in, then that's okay. Because I take with me everything that I've gained from, from being there or from doing that and move on. So I think, yeah accepting that this was the next step was really important. And then the other thing that was really important was, was sort of giving myself permission to be brave and really, really sort of accepting that perfection wasn't the important thing. But courage and trying things was what mattered
That really speaks isn't it to you that lifelong learning that always evolving and always moving forward, which is amazing because if you think about when we met each other, we were really at that start of our journey of learning something, which was medicine at that time and clinical medicine. But at the same time, the medical community adopts a lifelong learning approach. So, I think it's probably innate in us that we continue to learn, but actually twisting that round and learning on ourselves is a different perspective. And it's something that I would wish for a lot of people because it opens up doesn't it a completely different avenue, a different viewpoint for you when you can also learn from what you're doing and your own actions.
Yeah, totally. And I think there's, I think, although there's a lot of similarity in that, there's, there's also some fundamental differences in as much as what this learning that we're talking about now is it's, it's learning to understand, not learning to know, not learning to be correct. Whereas something that learning at medical school is it's learning to be correct. It's learning to know things to be able to pass that on, which is a very different sort of learning from the inner wisdom that you get from curiosity, experimentation. But yeah. Also courage.
Do you ever identify people along the way that were able to support you with the moment where you needed to be brave and courageous with your path with taking a path out of clinical medicine and into more of the coaching and developing your coaching business?
Yeah, definitely. And not just with the coaching business, but everything that I've done since I left medicine, cause I've done lots of work in digital health and technology and some health care leadership. They weren't difficult in terms of courage the time where I needed support and help around me, and there was almost an army of support in, in, in a way metaphorically it was an army. Was it when I bit the bullet and after 10 years of wishing and wanting and never believing, I could leave that I made the decision that I was going to leave this clinical career and move into something else. And there was, there was, there's a lot of people and friends, friends in particular really who was so supportive through that and really gave me the courage to say, I'm going to do it,
Which is a special thing. It's good to be able to identify those people, to support you and to be your champions. How did coaching become part of your life? At which point did you identify that coaching might be something you'd like to explore for yourself? And then how do you think your experience of coaching then led you to fall into wanting to explore actually being a coach?
Yeah. So actually it came at slightly, the other way around, I started to train to be a coach when I was working as a consultant. And that enabled me to support my, some of my patients using the coaching skills, which was a slightly unusual balance of coaching as a consultant because generally, patients come to see you for your expertise and your advice, which is very much not what coaching is, but the use of the coaching skills was because of chronic pain being so much